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  • ᴛʟᴅʀ: Is it ever possible for a sentence to have a word in it that is simultaneously more than one single part of speech in that sentence under the same parse and meaning?

    (For example, a few possible pairings from lexical categories commonly ascribed to English include noun+verb, verb+adjective, adjective+preposition, preposition+conjunction, conjunction+noun, and so on and so forth.)

My hunch is that the answer to my question is no, but I have heard the contrary proposition argued. So I would like to know definitively whether it can or that it cannot, preferably backed up with references and citations supporting whichever direction the answerer chooses to take on this one. If authorities differ, please explain the conflict.

BONUS: I’m especially looking into whether an “‑ing word” can ever be more than one of a noun, a verb, an adjective, or an adverb at the same time in the same sentence under the same parse and meaning. I don’t know, but I suspect that in this case

“There can be only one!”     ⸺Highlander


Background

English is notorious for having words that can act as more than one part of speech depending on how you use them. This famous pair relies on flies and like each being a different part of speech in each sentence:

  • Time flies[verb, singular] like[preposition] an arrow.
  • Fruit flies[noun, plural] like[verb, plural] a banana.

That shows how flies can be either a verb or a noun and how like can be either a preposition or a verb.

Similarly, the word still can be noun, a verb, an adjective, or an adverb.

  • You can still[adverb] still[verb] a still[adjective] still[noun].

Or here, using inflections characteristic of each class:

  • Quickly stilling[verb, ‑ing] bubbling stills[noun, plural]
    still[adverb] leaves them stiller[adjective, comparative] than you’d like.

In all those examples, one can assign only a single part of speech to each word as it is used in a given sentence. Outside of a sentence, or at least of a broader syntactic context, it is often impossible to make any such assignment, since the same word has the potential to be two or more different parts of speech.

The ‑ing inflections of verbs are notorious for this property of being able to be several different parts of speech. In my previous example sentence, I used one as a verb (stilling) but another as an adjective (bubbling). These ‑ing words can also easily serve as nouns, as in savings accounts and in swimming competitions.

And I’m perfectly fine with all that.

The problem is that I’ve also been told, quite vociferously in fact, that whenever an ‑ing word in a noun or an adjective, it is also AT THE SAME TIME a verb as well!

I can find no evidence to support this proposition, and I have looked. Hard.

All the putative examples of these I’ve been able to locate seem to err by misparsing syntactic constituents. This is the same class of error as we so often see in sentences like “Give it to whoever is coming” where they mistakenly write whomever thinking that that word is the object of a preposition whereas in fact the object of the preposition is all of whoever is coming, not just whoever alone.

Looking for Evidence

Here is my thinking:

  • If it’s a noun, that means it must do noun things.
  • If it’s a verb, that means it must do verb things.

So the easiest way I can think of to test whether something is one or the other or both is to apply various “does it do this-or-that noun thing?” and “does it this-or-that verb thing” tests, then tally the results to see whether there’s enough evidence for a clear answer either way.

In other words, to gather evidence I have taken a sentence alleged to have these ‑ing words that “are both nouns and verbs at the same time” and applied to them various syntactic tests. These are all simple syntactic tests that should either be true for verbs and false for nouns, or else the other way around. Then I have looked at the results of this evidence. I don’t mean to limit the tests applied, but I myself have used these sorts:

Noun Tests

  • Nouns can be inflected for number.

  • Nouns fit into a particular slot in the larger noun phrase, which includes such things as determiners and adjectives modifying that noun.

  • Nouns phrases can be connected to other noun phrases with prepositions.

  • Noun phrases accept the ’s clitic used to indicate possession. (This can look like another inflection when applied to just a noun alone.)

Verb tests

  • Verbs fit in a larger verb phrase, which includes such things as adverbs.

  • Verbs can accept complements, like direct objects if transitive.

  • Verbs can be inflected in various ways, including for tense, aspect, number, and person.

The sentences we’re going to apply these tests to are these, which are reduced from this answer:

1. Running bulls is easy.

2. Running bulls are dangerous.

The conjecture to prove or disprove is that the word running is two or more parts of speech in either one of those two sentences alone. I already know that it is a different part of speech in sentence 1 as it is in sentence 2: it’s a verb in the first one and an adjective in the second one.

But I really think that that’s all it is. It isn’t also a noun in either of them. Just because running bulls is the subject of sentence 1 doesn’t mean that running is a noun; it can’t be a noun or it wouldn’t be able to take a direct object like is happening there. Only transitive verbs take direct objects; nouns never do.

Possible Origin of Confusion?

I think this confusion may stem from people being told that a complete sentence “must have a noun and a verb”, which isn’t a “real rule” in English. Rather, a sentence must have a subject and its predicate, and lots of things can be subjects other than just plain nouns alone, including clauses like “Running[verb, ‑ing] bulls is hard” or “What they told[verb, past] you is wrong”, where is hard and is wrong are the respective predicates and everything preceding those is each sentence’s respective subject as a clause. Neither running bulls nor what they told you is somehow a noun, since those are clauses. But they’re still subjects nonetheless, and we don’t need to pretend they’re nouns to make them be a subject. That’s the main argument for saying that running is somehow a noun there, and I can’t see it.

See my reasoning here for the application of noun tests and verb tests to these two sentences. I cannot come up with any way to make the running verb from sentence 1 also be a noun or an adjective in sentence 1, nor to make the running adjective from sentence 2 also be a noun or a verb in sentence 2.

It has been argued that you cannot use syntactic tests to determine the part of speech of a word, and that broader historic traditions of assigning these things allows them to be simultaneously multi-parted even when no syntactic test can find any such evidence. I do not pretend to understand those arguments, and I am not making them. I simply know no other way to do this than to apply syntactic tests.

Motivation for the Question

Many answers on this site allege that ‑ing words used in non-finite verb clauses are not only verbs alone as their clause usage proves already but also “actually” nouns when said clauses are used substantively and also adjectives or adverbs when those clauses are used as adjuncts modifying something else.

I believe they mistake the verb clause as a syntactic constituent replaceable by nouns or adjectives/adverbs for those respective lexical categories. I think only the clauses can function as substantives or modifiers, but each word’s lexical class is still that of a verb alone.

Here are some examples that seems to suggest otherwise:

As well as:

So we end up telling people that things belong to two distinct and oppositional lexical categories at the same time. This is extremely confusing, so I’d like to find evidence that it does or does not ever occur, or even can.

The Question, Again

So I again ask: is it ever possible for a sentence to have a word that’s simultaneously more than one single part of speech in that sentence (under the same parse and meaning)?

I’m particularly looking for whether an ‑ing word can ever be more than one of a noun, a verb, an adjective, or an adverb at the same time in the same sentence under the same parse and meaning.

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    With all due respect (I mean it), may I raise one humble objection? Under the same parse and meaning, you say. Isn't that a bit of a self-refuting idea? We break down a sentence into its constituent parts, and label each of them as this or that part of speech; isn't that what ultimately lays the foundation of any given interpretation of that sentence? Isn't that where all fundamental meaning emerges from? From the syntactic interrelations we see between words? – m.a.a. May 10 '17 at 17:35
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    I don't see the point of the question; at the same time, as well as simultaneous, are meaningless phrases when applied to POS judgements on sentences. Time is a variable in the sentence production, but not in the parts of speech of its constituents. There are cases with simultaneous parses that use different POSs, like They listened to it, where listen to it may be parsed as IV + PP, and as TV + DO. That is simultaneous in the listener's parser, but it's not an identical parse. – John Lawler May 10 '17 at 18:25
  • @JohnLawler People here get told that -ing words (which they often call “gerunds”) are “both nouns and verbs”. I can find no evidence this is true, just vaguely facile definitions from non-specialist/collegiate-type dictionaries saying so. I believe they’re all mistaking an entire nonfinite VP being used as a substantive with claiming that the head of that VP is itself a noun not a verb. They do this with -ing forms and to-infinitives alike, so I'd like a professional explanation of why this is or isn’t right, preferably based on constituency tests and other clearly observable phenomena. – tchrist May 10 '17 at 19:13
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    Given one parse of one sentence in one pragmatic context, POS of any constituent are either unknown or else one of the tag set. Never two. That's what parsing *means*. If the POS changes, so does the parse. – John Lawler May 10 '17 at 20:15
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    Have you tried asking about this on the linguistics forum rather than hoping a linguist will appear here? https://linguistics.stackexchange.com/ – Tom22 May 10 '17 at 22:28
  • @Tom22 It won’t do much good asking about an English-only thing on Linguistics: for example in Spanish and Portuguese gerunds can only ever be used adverbially, never substantively, and while their infinitives can be used as substantives nobody in those linguistics communities ever refers to those as noun; they’re still verbs to them, just as I believe ours are. I'll edit the question though with the stuff I've said to John. – tchrist May 11 '17 at 17:29
  • It seems to me that it's either a semantic battle about use of grammatical terms, or it is more of a "natural language" issue; if you need to ~perceive~ of an action to understand a noun(Hiking), you can argue that the word is both a verb and a noun due to "what it took to understand". "Cognition" seems beyond the ELU : Are words merely labels with definitions OR, as in functional programming, are they more references to a chain of functions yielding a return cognitive value? Can you pole a boat up a river without simultaneously thinking about the the noun representing a long stick? – Tom22 May 11 '17 at 17:55
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    It may appear obvious, and I am no grammarian but many -ing words can be interpreted as verb and/or adjective without substantially changing the meaning -- I was looking for the adjective form of 'persevere' (unrelated query) and found 'persevering' listed -- now it occurs to me that it might be the sort of example you were asking about, when used in sentences such as "he may not (yet) be proficient but he is persevering." It can be simultaneously read as verb and/or adjective with the same meaning. (Grammar gurus pl. resist de compulsion to correct any technical error in my comment!) – English Student May 13 '17 at 15:41
  • How about "One morning I shot an elephant in my pajamas. How he got in my pajamas, I don't know." Without that second sentence, "in my pajamas" could be interpreted two ways, although it would still be a preposition both ways. – Teacher KSHuang May 16 '17 at 10:48
  • @TeacherKSHuang Yes, nice but orthoganal to the question at hand. – Araucaria - Him May 16 '17 at 21:51
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    @JohnLawler Erm, yes exactly. But that's the reason that Tchrist is asking the Q in the first place. He wants someone to explain that in an answer here! If you could that would be very useful. I can't right now, I'm struggling to get stuff done before I either sink or get sunk ... But you could, in one of your very nice succinct couple of paragraph answers. It would be a good resource. (And, I'd enjoy reading it - so I'm sure others would too) – Araucaria - Him May 16 '17 at 21:57
  • I've explained it so many times I doubt I would do much good explaining it again. The problem of course is the presupposition that "at the same time" means anything in this context. Since it doesn't, no answer is reasonable. – John Lawler May 16 '17 at 22:23
  • @JohnLawler I may be guilty of posing this question as an A/B problem, where I wanted the answer to B but asked only A. I could have done much better with a much shorter question, perhaps something more like this comment presents. – tchrist May 16 '17 at 22:41
  • @tchrist This was a very good and important question to ask, in my opinion. Ruefully, I regret that it turned up when I didn't have an opportunity to try to give you a (probably mediocre) answer. John's ticks the box however in a very concise and packaged way. But the germaine part of your question is also very intersting and important cross-linguistically. Would you consider posting a different version of it on Linguisitcs? – Araucaria - Him May 17 '17 at 20:59
  • @tchrist ... You may get some interesting and useful answers there, but it would also be very good for that SE site (You won't get a naff answer from me there in anything like the near future. But I'd love to read the ones you do get. I'm assuming this hasn't been asked there, of course. But I don't think it has). – Araucaria - Him May 17 '17 at 21:08
  • (1) Sentences may be ambiguous. 'The window was broken.' and 'Flying planes can be dangerous.' can each be parsed in two different ways (adjectival interpretation or otherwise). This doesn't mean that 'broken' and 'flying' have more than one POS in the sentence; it means that the sentence needs more context to be parsable. // (2) There are different approaches to situations where POS is not clear-cut though the sentence is not ambiguous. For instance, (a) Quirk et al posit an umpteen-point gradience for ing-forms between deverbal noun and obvious present participle. They ... – Edwin Ashworth Jun 21 '17 at 21:21
  • thus adopt a model where intermediates between nouns and verbs must be considered. (b) Another model forces a traditional or neo-traditional label onto all words. So a usage Quirk might judge as 60% nouny, 40% verby would be lumped in the 'noun' class. (c) Another model allows the usage of a word to be in two classes at once. Thus 'galore' is always both quantifier and adjective (= 'many gay ...' but is postposed). – Edwin Ashworth Jun 21 '17 at 21:21
  • ... Obviously POB; one first needs a consensus on how many parts of speech English has. – Edwin Ashworth Apr 22 '22 at 18:41

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Yes

There are constructions called zeugmas (after Greek ζεῦγμα, 'a yoking') where a word or phrase is intentionally made to apply to two or more others in a sentence despite functioning differently for each. The horde of words in English that can function as various parts of speech mean that zeugmas can be created where a single word simultaneously acts as two separate parts of speech.

@DavePhD had a particularly nice one in his reply

She is and runs fast.[adj.; adv.]

that could also be reworked into the still stranger

She is but stands fast.[adj.; adv.]

The doubled, incompatible, but grammatically functional senses of the word—usually requiring a double-take to figure out—are the appeal of the rhetorical device. It's simple enough to create such expressions using -ing words:

He is and likes running.[v.; n.]

They are and enjoy knitting.[v.; n.]

although anything creative is likely to be rather awkward:

He's being and is a hit.[v.; n.]

He was, has, and eats standing.[v.; n.; adv.]

 

and No

If you consider the doubled parts of speech in those zeugmas irrelevant because they're different 'meanings'... well, as Mr Yeats pointed out in his post, nouns and verbs are definitionally different "meanings". A noun used as a verb may intend act as (a) ~ ("man/crew/staff"), act like (a) ~ ("cat/horse/slut/fool around"), make (a) ~ ("sound/peep/bridge"), use (a) ~ ("hammer/canvass/google"), provide (a) ~ ("water/house/board"), &c. A verb used as a noun may intend an instance of ~ ("a run/try/fuck") or several instances of ~ ("a beat/pulse/record"), something that ~ ("a shoot/hit/fuck"), &c. They'll all be slightly different as a matter of course.

If you exclude any such form of doubled meaning, the only form of word that could work as a verb and noun simultaneously would be verbal forms.

It [sic] isn’t also a noun in either of them. Just because running bulls is the subject of sentence 1 doesn’t mean that running is a noun; it can’t be a noun or it wouldn’t be able to take a direct object like is happening there. Only transitive verbs take direct objects; nouns never do.

If you peremptorily define your opponents' contention out of existence, of course, it is impossible for them, me, or anyone else to continue to argue their case.

 

and Maybe

You can rest there and be content that everyone who disagrees with you is making some form of a category error. Ambiguity between adj. and adv. senses of participles could be dealt with by similar definitional adjustments, like Aml's "adjectives-being-used-adverbially" in his reply to DavidPhD's post.

I'd think it should be unsettling that you're just shifting definitions out from under your opponents. It certainly seems odd you'd put up a 500 point bounty just to hear how right you are. The actual definition of noun

A word used as the name or designation of a person, place, or thing; the class or category of such words...

and verb

That part of speech by which an assertion is made, or which serves to connect a subject with a predicate.

don't remotely support your contention that there is a magical bright line between the "noun" in "I like eating" and the "verb-in-a-noun-phrase" in "I like eating bacon". In fact, they don't support the idea that either "eating" is a verb at all, let alone universally.

The essential nature of the gerund in Latin—and, by extension for many grammarians, its -ing equivalents in English—is that it is a noun which retains the verb-like regimen (taking adverbs, objects, &c.) of its origin. RaceYouAnytime says as much both with his examples and his research describing the way generic English learners intuitively approach this structure. Aml claims to agree with you completely, but still understood your "running" as a noun with an object. Both historically (Latin and Old English's grammatical suffixes make verbals' noun status much more emphatic) and popularly, that's exactly how gerunds are approached.

You can absolutely define away your opponents' points. It doesn't really make them 'wrong' in any meaningful sense, though. You've just redefined 'noun' and 'verb' into something they and most other English speakers don't intend. You shouldn't expect such arguments to be convincing to them or anyone who doesn't share your specialized definition of these terms.

It's not that I think you're wrong on the basis of modern linguistic processing. It's just that no one is 'right' here. You're using a separate definition of noun and verb from theirs and you're just talking past each other. Buy 'em a beer and change the subject. They can suffer in the Hell of Poor Grammatical Understanding in the afterlife of your choosing.

For myself, as a side note, looking at both sides from the outside, I don't see the analytical benefit in calling "eating" a verb-in-a-one-word-noun-phrase instead of just treating it as a noun and saying verbal nouns can take objects. That approach seems less complicated in analytic languages and simply correct in synthetic ones.

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  • In "Whether he eats is more important than when he eats", do you consider whether and when to be nouns? How about in its reduced form, "Whether is more important than when"? Surely not even a colorless green whether is more important than a furiously dreaming when, now is it? I'm pretty sure the ungrammaticality of that last question provides the answers to the earlier two. What good purpose does confusing subjects with nouns serve? – tchrist May 16 '17 at 18:35
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    I would consider them wh-words in both cases, and representing clauses in both cases. Rather like Ross's rule of "Sluicing", which produces sentences like He's going to give us some old questions on the exam, but which ones isn't clear, where a plural subject which ones agrees with a singular subject isn't clear. – John Lawler May 16 '17 at 22:46
  • @JohnLawler Tchrist, But "which ones", being a clause, a deceased version of "which ones he's going to give us", isn't really plural, is it? Even though it looks like a normal noun phrase in the sense of a phrase headed by a noun (whereas in reality, it's a clause headed by a missing predicate). – Araucaria - Him May 17 '17 at 20:47
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    Well, yeah. But it looks very suspicious, and lots of people don't find that kind of description satisfying. So they make up their own rule. Sic transit lingua mundi. – John Lawler May 17 '17 at 20:50
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How about "splashing is forbidden?" Splashing seems to function as either a noun or a verb.

It could be modified by an adverb to fit the verb test:

Loudly splashing is forbidden.

Or it could be modified with an adjective to fit the noun test:

That loud splashing is forbidden.


A psycholinguistic perspective

Ultimately, to address the meat of the question, I don't believe that a word can truly function as multiple parts of speech with the same meaning and parse. It's important to consider how a reader perceives the parts of the sentence.

Studies of language acquisition in young children indicate that gerunds, or words ending with -ing generally, tend to be comprehended as two separate lexical units. An example lies in a study of 15-month-olds by Toben Mintz:

Taken together, the experiments in this study demonstrate that English-learning 15-month-olds represent the suffix -ing as a discrete unit. Thus, although previous experiments failed to find evidence that 15-month-olds have acquired morphosyntactic dependencies involving -ing (Santelmann and Jusczyk, 1998), infants may nevertheless be in the process of learning these dependencies at this age. Specifically, having a discrete representation of an affix allows infants to notice dependencies between that affix and other forms.

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The experiments reported here demonstrate that English-learning 15-month-olds represent -ing as a distinct form. When processing novel words that end in -ing, they segment the suffix from the stem. This allows them to notice morphosyntactic and morphosemantic patterns that involve that form, and that will form a part of their acquired grammatical knowledge

  • Mintz, Toben H. "The segmentation of sub-lexical morphemes in English-learning 15-month-olds." Frontiers in Psychology

This conclusion is supported to varying degrees by other studies of language acquisition. See also:

  • Pliatsikas, Christos; Wheeldon, Linda; Lahiri, Aditi; Hansen, Peter C. "Processing of zero-derived words in English: An fMRI investigation" Neuropsychologia 53 (2014) 47–53

By this logic, one could argue that a gerund functions as two parts of speech by virtue of being processed first as a verb and then as a noun. In the sentence, "I enjoy running," a young child processes "run" first, with "-ing" acting as a modifying unit. In this sense, it's not unlike verbs in infinitive form. "To run is fun." Here, we're comfortable calling "run" a verb and "to run" a noun clause. "Run" can still be treated as a verb -- it is free to operate on an object or be modified by an adverb. "To run races quickly is fun."

However, the case of infinitives also illustrates an important distinction between nouns and noun clauses. Even though "To run" is a noun clause, it doesn't have the same flexibility as a typical noun. It cannot be modified by an adjective or be made countable.

Given that early processing of gerunds tends to treat them as two separate lexical units, there seems to be an implication that the parsing occurs twice by young children as they learn the function of the phrase. This notion is confirmed in another notable study approaching the question from a psycholinguistic angle:

The abstract can be found here:

Among other things, Kemp et al. discuss the level of computation required to process phrases with ambiguous function as measured by response time, a common method in psycholinguistic research. Some passages seem highly relevant to how we mentally parse these parts of speech:

Laboratory studies confirm that having to resolve a word’s grammatical category can delay reading time, in such phrases as She saw her duck and chickens vs. She saw her duck and stumble (e.g., Boland, 1997).

The study and others cited in it also conclude that orthographic suffixes, like -ing, provide clues as to the part of speech of a word, even when used as suffixes in "fake words" where research participants were asked to identify the part of speech of made up words with differing orthographic endings. The use of segmented lexical clues to determine a part of speech parallels the earlier mentioned research related to how children process words like "splashing." It is parsed in two parts, first as a verb, but its ultimate function similar to a noun clause doesn't imply that it is in itself two parts of speech at once.

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    I think this is close to the heart of the matter. It does seem that when you apply the adjective to show it’s a noun it is now no longer a verb, and when you apply the adverb to show it’s a verb it is now no longer a noun. Perhaps this is like Schrödinger's cat: as soon as you test it, its quantum superposition collapses and you’re left with a dead part of speech. :) – tchrist May 07 '17 at 01:39
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    Yes, this is a common kind of example, but the usual counter-argument is that it cannot be modified with an adverb and an adjective at the same time (or an adverb and a determiner at the same time, or an adjective and a direct object at the same time). We cannot say "That loudly splashing" to mean "that loud splashing" or "loud blowing trumpets is annoying" to mean "loudly blowing trumpets is annoying". – herisson May 07 '17 at 01:40
  • @sumelic: Loudly splashing is still a noun phrase. Case solved. These Parts of Speech lexical categories are simplistic anyway. Language is inherently underspecific. Since you are drawing parallels to hard science, I would like to point you to the Halting Problem and Goedel's Completeness and Incompleteness Theorems. I think ambiguity can be often avoided to a degree by using the concrete noun that is entailed by the abstract "splash" (verb or noun), ie. noise or water. – vectorious May 07 '17 at 03:40
  • It's more that when it's a noun you can modify it with an adjective and when its a verb you can modify it with an adverb. But because these are homophonous in your case, it isn't so easy to see. Stick an object on the verb splash and it will suddenly become clear. "Sudden splashing the water is forbidden" <--- That's definitely ungrammatical. "Suddenly splashing the water" <-- That's grammatical. Similarly "The sudden splashing of* the water is forbidden" (grammatical) versus "The suddenly splashing of the water is forbidden*" (ungrammatical). – Araucaria - Him May 09 '17 at 10:51
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Is it ever possible for a sentence to have a word in it
that is simultaneously more than one single part of speech
in that sentence, under the same parse and meaning?

So, if a grammatical English sentence contains a word A, can A be more than one POS?

Parts of speech are grammatical terms and have varying meanings for different grammarians.
Let's rule out quantum superposition of POS, so no Schrödinger's Gerund that's noun and verb.

There certainly are sentences where it's impossible to tell which of several possible categories a word falls into, like the first sentence below, where exhausted can be either a predicate adjective, as in the second sentence, or part of a passive construction, like the third one.

  • I was exhausted.
  • I was exhausted and the bed was soft; we suited each other well.
  • I was exhausted by the irritable conversation and left early.

But that's not "in the same sentence". In the first sentence, there's just no way to know what the speaker intends about POS; it could be either one. And there's no way to know if one speaker might feel it was an adjective, but another speaker might think it was a participle. Or the same speaker might do both, to the same sentence, on different occasions.

So, the key word in the question is Simultaneously. And the answer to the question is No.

If anything in a parse changes from one POS to another, that makes it a different parse.
Thus, if A has two different POSs, they will occur in two different parses of the sentence.
And therefore the sentence can't simultaneously have two POSs in the same parse.

It is of course very easy to find sentences that have two interpretations; this is one way to make jokes, and certainly such ambiguity is common. But each interpretation represents a different parse. That's one of the purposes of parsing, in fact -- to distinguish ambiguous sentences and make their differences distinct. But that doesn't mean they're simultaneous, in any sense.

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    Afterthought: Well, maybe in one sense they could be simultaneous. In a really good joke, told by a really good comedian, with really great timing, the two senses might be simultaneous, and therefore so would the parses and their POSs. But a lot would depend on the crowd. – John Lawler May 17 '17 at 18:11
  • Ah, but that would be based on the comedian being able to say two sentences with one utterance, though, maybe. There wouldn't be one proposition there ... I like your answer (for what that's worth!) +1. And I do think it does 'a lot of good explaining it again'. – Araucaria - Him May 17 '17 at 21:10
  • @JohnLawler - How about a sentence like: "Your answer is quite expert, which I am not." In the first clause 'expert' is a predicate adjective, in the second it seems to be a noun, but maybe it is also a pred adj. Another thought is that subordinate conjunctions as in: 'The man, who is wearing the funny hat, is the chef,' seem to be both a pronoun and a conjunction. I would love to hear what you have to say about this. – Ubu English Dec 14 '18 at 22:05
  • @JohnLawler I've also answered this question, and added comments about the generally accepted idea that participles and infinitives become nouns when used as subjects or objects, but I think this idea is incorrect. – Ubu English Dec 14 '18 at 22:20
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Since the same words can be adjectives and adverbs, sentences could be constructed where the word modifies a noun and a verb:

She is and runs fast.

While others cheat, my children are and play fair.

In Yellowstone National Park, bison roam, and truly are, free.

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  • These adverbs are merely adjectives being used adverbially. Their POS is adjective, but the phrase type is 'adverbial' when applied to the verb, (but not to the copula; a tricky bit of coordination). Even if they ended in '-ly', their deeper function is still as adjective, but applied to the verb rather than the subject. – AmI May 12 '17 at 21:01
  • @Aml is not only wrong*: there's an entire rhetorical device based upon such constructions. Dr Dave's first example is particularly apropos. It's not until the second or third read-through that you realize the needless and awkward duplication resolves nicely if it's intended as an aspersion to her chastity. – lly May 13 '17 at 12:48
  • Or tautological: fast in the first example is absolutely hovering ambiguously between the word's adjectival and adverbial senses. If that resolves merely because we opt to call the adverb an "adverbial adjective applied to the verb"... well, that avoids having a word functioning as two parts of speech simultaneously, by only by violence to the terminology being employed.
  • – lly May 13 '17 at 12:52
  • @lly The first sentence doesn't have to be about her chastity. She's a multifaceted athlete who excels at track and swimming. She runs, and general is, fast. – DavePhD May 14 '17 at 13:07
  • Pretty much has to. "Being generally fast" in a literal sense is simply duplicative of "generally running fast", leaving the sentence awkward in the same way "She is both fast and not slow" is. They only 'work' if the figurative senses are intended. – lly May 14 '17 at 13:29
  • I don't see how these sentences would be acceptable grammatically, even while their meaning might be conveyed successfully. Since when is it grammatically acceptable, in common or standard dialects of English, to modify a verb with an adverbial phrase outside of its clause, especially when the modifier is functioning as a different part of speech in the referent clause? Even if there is an argument for this as a literary device, it is well outside the standard forms of English. – Ubu English Dec 16 '18 at 21:27
  • Also, just because a word is broad scoped enough to function as different PoS, even with the same general meaning, does not mean they can take both roles at the same time, let alone in separate clauses. – Ubu English Dec 16 '18 at 21:33