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I don't know if I should trust my non-native ears, but I've heard a couple of people (Katie from CollegeHumor is the first one come to mind) who say "thank you" with a voiced "th" instead of the proper voiceless one. Also quite a couple of people seem to have said "princible" instead of "principle" (like those guys from Corridor I think). I don't remember the exact videos where they say those words for demonstration, though.

So do Americans often voice their voiceless consonant if at all? Discounting intervocalic voicing which is more of a historical thing that happened centuries ago ("knives, clothes, Stephen"), this seems counter-intuitive to me, because it's more natural to devoice voiced consants, especially at utterance boundaries or if that consonant is next to a voiceless one (e.g., "slide" + a pause, in which /l/ is slightly devoiced because of /s/ and /d/ slightly so because of the following pause). Also discounting the North American tapped /t/.

Vun-Hugh Vaw
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  • Hello Vun, I am from the US and I have never said Thank you with a voiced th. I also have never voiced the p in priniciple except when someone is congested and can't do the non-voiced or from little kids who are learning. I have never watched the shows you are talking about, but it would sound very weird to me. But remember that there are a great number of regional pronunciations in the US, so each can have different pronunciations. – Karlomanio Oct 23 '18 at 16:57
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    The only word that comes to mind is congratulate, which some Americans now pronounce voiced. American schoolchildren might think the head of their school is a princibal, but they grow out of it. – KarlG Oct 23 '18 at 17:12
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    Also the loan word kindergarten, which is almost always pronounced and frequently misspelled "-garden." – shoover Oct 23 '18 at 18:34
  • @shoover In AmE most intervocalic 't's are not aspirated (like in BrE) but are instead lenited to a flap (so 'writer' and 'rider' sound identical). But this certainly could be an instance of the OP. – Mitch Oct 23 '18 at 19:40
  • Crap, forgot about the most American thing, that tapped t. Question edited. – Vun-Hugh Vaw Oct 23 '18 at 20:44
  • Don't worry! Eventually those voiceless consonants will gain political strength and find their voice! – Hot Licks Oct 23 '18 at 21:18
  • Man, you're a riot. But seriously though, I'm discounting what that has been well known and obvious enough that they are discountable. Should've phrased that differently. – Vun-Hugh Vaw Oct 23 '18 at 21:22

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No, it isn't that common to voice voiceless consonants. It does happen sometimes, though (the biggest example of course is intervocalic /t/ in certain contexts).

The two examples that you give are quite specific.

  • Voicing the initial th in thank is known to be a feature of some people's speech (See Voiced “th” in “thank you”? on Linguistics SE and Pronunciation of "thank" using ð (voiced th) instead of θ (unvoiced th) on ELU). The distinction between voiceless and voiced th does not have a large "functional load" and it isn't indicated in the spelling, either.

  • I hadn't heard before about voicing the p in principle. It seems possible that this is partly an analogical change based on the large number of words ending in -able/-ible—although those are mostly adjectives, while principle is a noun. Based on Google results for the spelling "multible", the word multiple may be another word where some people voice /p/ to /b/ when it comes after an unstressed vowel and before word-final /əl/. I haven't heard of any analogous change of voicing /kəl/ to /gəl/ in words like miracle, article, vehicle, oracle.

In some words, sibilant sounds may be unexpectedly voiced.

  • KarlG mentions the use of voiced /dʒ/ in congratulations. Some speakers use voiced /dʒ/ word-finally after an unstressed vowel in certain words where /tʃ/ would be expected from the spelling, such as ostrich, sandwich. I don't know if this /dʒ/ is actually phonetically voiced, or just phonemically voiced. Actually, the variation between /tʃ/ and /dʒ/ after unstressed vowels seems to date back to Middle English, so it didn't originate as a specifically American English thing (it's discussed in §4.2.1.5 of "Change in Obstruent Laryngeal Specifications in English: Historical and Theoretical Phonology", by Magdalena Jeannette Spaargaren, 2009).

  • Voiced /ʒ/ is used where /ʃ/ would be expected in a number of words, such as equation, words ending in -rsion (version, dispersion, immersion), and fission. The pronunciations with /ʒ/ have varying frequencies for each word depending on the dialect. Using /ʒ/ in -rsion words seems to be a specifically American English thing, while using /ʒ/ in equation is usual in all major varieties of English as far as I know.

  • The distinction between /s/ and /z/ is relatively unstable in certain contexts/words (interchange between these is probably facilitated by the use of the letter S to represent both sounds). The final consonant of versus is often voiced (even by speakers who have not reanalyzed the word as an inflected form of a verb "to verse").

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  • /ʒ/ in fission? That’s definitely a new one to me. Sounds like a Dutchman saying vision! – Janus Bahs Jacquet Oct 23 '18 at 17:48
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    @JanusBahsJacquet: It's probably influenced by the /ʒ/ in fusion. – herisson Oct 23 '18 at 17:48
  • Still sounds very odd to me, unlike princible and multible, which sound perfectly unremarkable to me. I could easily imagine myself saying those in normal speech (though probably not discible, presumably due to the different stress), but I think I’d actually be confused if I heard someone say fizzion, and wonder whether I’d understood them right. (There’s also cases like possess, parallel to equation but with /z/ for /s/ instead of /ʒ/ for /ʃ/.) – Janus Bahs Jacquet Oct 23 '18 at 17:52
  • @JanusBahsJacquet: I didn't go into possess and similar words (dessert, dissolve) because the voicing there seems to have arisen before American English existed. But maybe I was being inconsistent, because the use of /dʒ/ in words like ostrich seems to be of similar antiquity. – herisson Oct 24 '18 at 08:14