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I needed to write a word that expressed the quality of being fast-paced.

"Fast-pacedness" sounded off and I looked the dictionaries up.

Collins is my favourite one. Webster I use when I need to give a word a casual glance. Oxford seems to have the most formal descriptions.

None of them contained the word.

Which leaves me thinking what's the criterion in the first place, for that not to be a possible word.

And of course, I rephrased my sentence and it looked much better then, but I remain with a question that's worth, I assume.

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The context was located inside a debate where it is assumed that the world changes very fast. There [supposedly] is a generalised fast-paced[ness] affecting and permeating basically everything, which was not there in the 18th century and before, and was [also supposedly] noted by writers beginning in the 19th and ahead.

Although there's no sources or quotes about these supposed writers, the book that started the discussion repeats this assertion often, and I wanted to capture this quality of being fast-paced in a single word. There are other aspects not related to velocity, but change, but I was not concerned about that for a choice of words.

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  • Could you give the whole sentence. We normally require context for a phrase not just a few isolated words. Thanks. – chasly - supports Monica Jan 27 '21 at 01:26
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    @chasly-supportsMonica context provided. I hope it suffices. – Otter Jan 27 '21 at 02:00
  • This is a grey area. See my comment below for four overproductivenesses you would do well to avoid. By 'quality' I assume you mean 'seen by almost all to be totally acceptable'. Your reticence is a clue here, as is the dearth of listings in quality dictionaries. It's clear what the candidate means, and '-ness' is a very (but I'd strongly argue not totally) productive suffix. I'd certainly use your candidate in informal prose, but would re'word' in a formal ... article, say. – Edwin Ashworth Jan 27 '21 at 12:02
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    Some "past participle adjectives" can be idiomatically nounified with the *-ness* suffix (farsightedness, indebtedness,...). But many others (including OP's "coinage") look a bit peculiar. The noun for adjectival *delighted* isn't normally *delightedness* - it's just *delight. And for content* it's usually *contentment* rather than *contentedness. But even if there is* a "non-ness" version of the word available, that doesn't mean the "-ness" form isn't a "word". It's just much less likely to be used. – FumbleFingers Jan 27 '21 at 13:06
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    Have you considered "fast pace"? The noun form is already there. – Tashus Jan 27 '21 at 15:13
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    i've seen "fast paced ness" (with/without various hyphens) any number of times in the startup scene, eg in job ads. it's of no consequence – Fattie Jan 27 '21 at 16:39
  • How would that be different from simple "pace"? – Robbie Goodwin Jan 28 '21 at 02:35

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Why sure you can, and indeed you have just done so!

I really cannot imagine what it is that makes you think you cannot do what you have just yourself done. Do you mistrust your own eyes? What’s the source of your afraidness here regarding fast-pacedness?

Perhaps it’s just its nonceness or ad-hoc-ness, its brand-newness or its yuckiness, or even its unapproachableness, but those are all their own concerns unrelated to what you have created.

Why? Because -ness is particularly superpowered among English derivational suffixes, that’s why. It does what it pleases, as too should you. It is a suffix of neverending plentifulness, for its cornucopiousness knows no bottom!

I strongly recommend that you read Aranoff and Fuhrhop’s 2002 paper on Restricting Suffix Combinations in German and English: Closing Suffixes and the Monosuffix Constraint, published in the journal Natural Language & Linguistic Theory.

There you will learn that -ness is the most liberal of all derivational suffixes, one that freely combines with nearly any base, even atop Latinate bases or piling atop not merely Germanic bases but even other Germanic suffixes, two things that just never happen with other Germanic derivational suffixes.

That’s why you can have cluelessness but not cluenessless. Heck, you can even have admissibleness! It doesn’t even have to be one word, which is where anal retentiveness comes into the picture.

So do as you will with your fast-pacedness. Just consider it your superpoweredness shining through. Eventually your friends may tire of your shock-and-awe-ness, but don’t let them hold you back! Be creative!

The OED Speaks

The OED says that the twin etymons of paced the adjective are pace the verb combined with the -ed inflectional morpheme. The verb appeared in print a couple of centuries after the noun, which dates to 1300. The primary sense they give for the adjective is:

  1. Having a particular pace, gait, or rate of walking or moving. Chiefly as the second element in compounds.

    For more established compounds, see the first element; recorded earliest in well-paced adj. 1, with reference to a woman metaphorically likened to a horse.

(Sense 1 is the one that applies here; their senses 2 and 3 are for other sorts of uses.)

Here is that earliest citation just now mentioned:

  • ?1523 J. Fitzherbert Bk. Husbandry f. xxxiᵛ
    The first [property of a woman] is to be mery of chere, the seconde to be well pased.

As you see, spelling was not yet at all standardized during late Middle English. They then proceed to illustrate the historical progression of the dominant spellings used over many centuries, including in this order and beginning with the first just given: well pased, slowe paste, high-pac’d, slowly pac’d, middle paced, slow-pac’d, stealthy-paced, quick-paced.

Elsewhere in the OED they separately document all of broken-paced, easy-paced, fine-paced, firm-paced, giddy-paced, half-paced, heavy-paced, lazy-paced, lofty-paced, medium-paced, motor-paced, proud-paced, quick-paced, slow-paced, snail-paced, swift-paced, tandem-paced, thorough-paced, tortoise-paced, true-paced.

As you see, it’s used in really all sorts of compounds, many of them rather more unusual that you own. Honestly, given quick-paced and swift-paced, not to mention slow-paced and tortoise-paced, what can possibly be “wrong” with your fast-pacedness? It lacks but a -ness, which is covered in the section previous to this one and in the section subsequent to this one alike.

Their most recent citation included under the paced headword is ideally paced, which is an open compound:

  • 1990 Gramophone May 1982/2
    A buoyant, ideally paced scherzo whose refulgent second subject Litton pointedly relishes even more on its second appearance.

My personal conclusion, based solely on OED inspection alone, is that your own version is unremarkable, no matter whether viewed diachronically or synchronically.

Published Citations of -pacedness

Here for your delectation are a couple of centuries’ worth of references to published instances of various sorts of X-pacedness terms. I see no difference whatsoever between swift-pacedness or slow-pacedness and the asker’s fast-pacedness.

  • 1823 European Magazine and London Review, Volume 84, p 141.
    This thorough-pacedness has communicated itself to his pleasures as well as his labours; and he runs through the business of relaxation with earnestness, because he has deliberated and resolved upon it.

  • 1836 Isaac Taylor The Characters of Theophrastus, p. 77
    In this movement there is that peculiar character of even-pacedness which belongs to all the undisturbed operations of nature.

  • 1884 L.H. Grindon Life: Its Nature, Varieties, and Phenomena, p. 397 Virtue, wisdom, poetry, the Bible, are matters which from intellectual slow-pacedness, or moral disrelish, excite only moieties of interest, but life is the central, universal, indomitable solicitude.

  • 1892 The American Magazine, Volume 34, p. 349
    Scientific development has invested most things with a modern air of improvement and utility that contrasts violently with the staidness and slow-pacedness so characteristic of the age of our grandfathers.

  • 1903 E.V. Lucas The Works of Charles and Mary Lamb: Letters, 1796-1834, p. 14
    Your simile of the Laplander..will bear comparison with any in Milton for fullness of circumstance and lofty-pacedness of Versification.

  • 1983 S.G. Abbas The Immortal Poetry & Mir Anis, p. 174 Very like the presentation of the qualities of the sword, Anis made a description of the grace, faithfulness, agility, trot and swift-pacedness of the horse.

  • 1985 J.M. Heath and M. Payne Text, Interpretation, Theory, p 170
    ..to Tennyson's use of “the most characteristic of the Keatsian metonymies, which is the substitution of a near-stasis or slow-pacedness for the language of the sense, for the sounds and sights of passing time.”

  • 1985 Peter Clark A Review of the Theories of Time and Structure for Organizational Sociology, p. 31
    Probably the other most important dimensions requiring investigation are societal expectations about the even pacedness of working and excitement control (Elias, 1982).

  • 1994 Industrial & Labor Relations Review Volume 48, p. 335
    We then ran preliminary regressions with salaried status as the dependent variable and a “pacedness” variable (combining the three measures of pacedness into one) as one of the independent variables..

  • 1999 K. Jahandarie Spoken and Written Discourse: A Multi-disciplinary Perspective, p. 133
    In his Dialogues on the Differences Between Speaking and Writing, Pedro de Navarra, the 16th-century Spanish linguist, referred to several such differences, including the evanescence, contextuality, other-pacedness, and redundancy of speech vs. the permanents, autonomy, self-pacedness, and conciseness of writing

  • 2012 M.S. Frings Philosophy of Prediction and Capitalism, p. 3
    This slow-pacedness of philosophical thinking does not, however, agree very well with the restless speed of our lives and present-day cravings for ever faster short-term solutions of all impending problems.

And although these terms may not be especially popular for any number of possible reasons, they are certainly morphologically grammatical and can be found here and there in various published works from the past 200 years.


Post script

No dictionary can ever tell you something is not a word!

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    I confess I laughed, because your answer was just so funny to read. Yet it delivered a compelling argument. I think I'll just leave it open for now so as to see what comes next. It is always good to see all the perspectives coming up. – Otter Jan 27 '21 at 02:28
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    But apart of that, I think my language insecurities are just a side-effect of being open-minded and always eager to learn more. I never consider what I know as definite, so indeed when I have the slightest doubt, I ask.

    I was also concerned about the academicness of the term, maybe so more than anything else, haha.

    Thanks for taking the time, I appreciate your answer.

    – Otter Jan 27 '21 at 02:31
  • Can you envision part-timeness, deep-waterness, six-pagedness being considered acceptable in any but the most jocund of submissions? There are some in grave need of an injection of Orwell-VIness. – Edwin Ashworth Jan 27 '21 at 11:54
  • @EdwinAshworth A great deal more research and analysis underlies my answer’s ultimate ruling on the morphological grammaticality of fast-pacedness than you may appreciate, but once I had decided to provide an answer both brief and breezy, exposing any more of that iceberg than its tiniest tip risked putting both those goals at risk of failure. I can certainly provide those details if doing so might serve to reduce your displeasure, but as better men than I have lamented, I must needs regret said proof is too large to fit within the slim margin of the comment you've just finished reading. – tchrist Jan 27 '21 at 15:10
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    Here's a useful link to an OUP piece. They mostly treat *-edness* and *-edly* as a unit, but there are certainly some interesting examples (*estrangedness* and *assuredness* aren't quite on a par with *ashamedness* and *pleasedness, for example). Plus it does address the issue of change over time*. – FumbleFingers Jan 27 '21 at 16:48
  • @FumbleFingers Your link does not resolve. – tchrist Jan 27 '21 at 18:01
  • (Dunno what happened with the first one, but browser remembered the history so I could find it again. It's a pdf "download", but not too big.) – FumbleFingers Jan 27 '21 at 18:12
  • A note on pronunciation, called to mind by @FumbleFingers 's comment mentioning -edness: I think "fast-pacedness", along with "assuredness" and maybe some of the other examples, would most naturally be pronounced with the "ed" as a syllable by itself, "fast-pace-ed-ness". To a modern ear, that might sound a bit archaic, but to me the other way sounds worse. I wonder if that's contributing to your confoundedness. – Glenn Willen Jan 27 '21 at 18:38
  • @FumbleFingers Nope, those never work; they have built-in TTLs that are quite brief. That returns <Error> <Code>AccessDenied</Code> <Message>Request has expired</Message> <Expires>2021-01-27T18:20:04Z</Expires> <ServerTime>2021-01-27T18:59:34Z</ServerTime> <RequestId>B9B008F91354CE62</RequestId> <HostId>VQ9QWsmRZfpjeAWns0k4wN1FsD8flX1FfElEjeswY1Fjh8Q0/U8+uA/WyLQUIoBe2YJc+lKJMZ8=</HostId> </Error> – tchrist Jan 27 '21 at 19:01
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    The whole thing needs refermatting. – Edwin Ashworth Jan 27 '21 at 20:38
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    @EdwinAshworth "refermatting" Is that like, widening the margins? – philipxy Jan 27 '21 at 22:14
  • @EdwinAshworth Beware, I've heard warnings about (and note the nessness) refermatness. – philipxy Jan 27 '21 at 22:28
  • A dictionary can't tell you something isn't a word, but just because your coinage isn't in the dictionary, that doesn't necessarily mean another word with the meaning you want isn't already widely recognized. – chepner Jan 27 '21 at 22:36
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    @philipxy Fermat should have submitted an answer rather than complaining about the restrictions accompanying comments. – Edwin Ashworth Jan 28 '21 at 11:51
  • Oh, well thanks for that info about "ephemeral links". I'll try to avoid posting them in future. Looking into it more closely I suspect I wasn't supposed to be able to access the full text of the post [without paying for it]. Whatever - I just noticed there's a typesetting error in the introduction, so googling the exact text "This first part of Pronunciationis concerned with general variations" should easily find it. On my system, that gets just 3 hits - one dead link, one link to the relevant .pdf, and one to a page trying to sell me a copy of The Oxford Guide to English Usage. – FumbleFingers Jan 28 '21 at 12:21
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    I disagree that a normal English speaker would opt for "admissibleness" over "admissibility." The "-ity" suffix is ubiquitous following "-able" or "-ible" because of derivation from "able" and "ability." I would certainly object to the use of "admissibleness" in formal writing. (The lesson here should be "follow the rules in formal writing unless you're being clever, but don't let anyone tell you how to speak in informal situations.") – A. R. Jan 28 '21 at 13:52
  • @AndrewRay I never said that you “should”: you are no longer discussing actual grammar but mere preferences of style. The ‑ible/‑able suffix does not block ‑ness; it is not ungrammatical. Please read the referenced paper in full. The OED cites "1964 Jrnl. Biblical Lit. 83 377 The admissibleness of this hypothesis will have to depend solely on how well the other scraps of evidence will fit into this quite arbitrary framework." and gives its sense as equivalent to admissibility. It also states that as of 2012 it is “now rare”. But it is not ungrammatical, a fundamental distinction. – tchrist Jan 28 '21 at 15:43
  • @tchrist Nor did I claim it was ungrammatical, merely that there is a more widely accepted alternative and that its use would be ill-advised in certain limited circumstances. – A. R. Jan 28 '21 at 16:12
  • You can do amazing things with suffixes in English, but sometimes the results are awkwardnessful. – PM 2Ring Jan 28 '21 at 21:35
  • @PM2Ring No, that is not true. Sometimes the result are *ungrammatical* because they violate particular constraints. Please read this paper. The monosuffix suffix forbids the form you suggested; it is not merely awkward: it is just as ungrammatical as a green great dragon is. Complex underlying grammatical rules govern suffixation restrictions just as much as they do adjective ordering restrictions. – tchrist Jan 28 '21 at 23:26
  • I tend to agree. FWIW, I didn't coin "awkwardnessful". Douglas R. Hofstadter used it in the introduction of Gödel, Escher, Bach. – PM 2Ring Jan 28 '21 at 23:34
  • Aside from replacing it with 'rapidity' we have a family joke that any term can take any suffix, whether or not torturous or acceptable to the general populace. Hence you can always perform with fast-pacedness, fast-pacity or even fast-paceliness. So there! (Though sometimes we do it in public, which can attract … ermm… interest.) – Tetsujin Jan 29 '21 at 19:16
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    @EdwinAshworth It turns out that -paced is fairly productive. See the added section with OED data. – tchrist Jan 30 '21 at 04:47
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I can think of lots of possible alternatives, e.g.

alacrity, briskness, dispatch, haste, hurry, hustle, etc.

However I don't think that is what you are asking. fast-pacedness sounds okay to me. I wouldn't want to overuse it though.

Notice that conventionally the pronunciation would change so as to clearly pronounce the "ed" syllable.

The original phrase "fast paced" is sounded as "fast paste". With the addition of "-ness" you would hear:

fast pace-ed-ness

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    The point about pronunciation is one of the most important things to be aware of. It applies to other words too, such as fixedly: fik-sid-ly, not *fixt-ly. – Decapitated Soul Jan 27 '21 at 11:45
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    I'm not that keen on *diseasedness, detachedness,* for example, but even if I did use them, I'd never actually enunciate the Past Partciple *-ed* element. I don't suppose any dictionaries would include *fast-pacedness* anyway - but if they did, I wouldn't expect to see it listed as *four* syllables. And TheFreeDictionary has *detachedness* (dɪˈtætʃtnəs) - the quality of being detached or separated (3 syllables). – FumbleFingers Jan 27 '21 at 14:54
  • @FumbleFingers - The problem with "Pasteness" as it would sound under your scheme, is that it resembles the name of a heroine in a movie for young adults rather than a proper word. – chasly - supports Monica Jan 27 '21 at 15:48
  • @chasly-supportsMonica: I don't know anything about that. But I do know that Upstart Crow made great play of Robert Greene (mis)pronouncing *-ed* (in words like *contained, where it just sounds silly / humorous* rather than *learned). And I personally probably wouldn't enunciate that -ed* in *fast-pacedness*, regardless of context. – FumbleFingers Jan 27 '21 at 16:13
  • @FumbleFingers - Upstart Crow is full of anachronisms and nonsensical humour. Pronunciation in Shakespeare's day was in flux and people were beginning to drop the clear "ed" in favour of the vowel-less version. Both could be heard in common use. There are plenty of current English words that retain the full sound of "ed". I suggest that "fast-pacedness" is a suitable candidate because as a nonce word, it needs to be said distinctly or no-one will recognise it. If it is pronounced "fastpasteness" it will be unintelligible to people who haven't heard it before. – chasly - supports Monica Jan 28 '21 at 14:33
  • @chasly-supportsMonica: I know all that (did you miss my "learned" pun?). If you want to include the explicitly-enunciated *-ed* in *fast-pacedness* I can hardly stop you, but so far as I'm concerned it just sounds like something that should have been in Upstart Crow anyway! Would you still want to go down that route with, for example, *unwashedness*? Yuck! :) – FumbleFingers Jan 28 '21 at 14:45
  • @chasly-supportsMonica: *We* may be as clean and pure as driven snow, but apparently Anglophones in general have needed to talk about their state of "unwashedness" far more often than I would have expected! I put in that link to Google Books because I knew there would have to be at least some instances of the term, but I never expected more than a handful of results. It turns out you can even chart the word in NGrams. Who'da thunk it? – FumbleFingers Jan 28 '21 at 15:20
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"pace" is already a noun. "pacedness" is a noun turned into an adjective turned into a noun. While it's not completely prohibited, it's a bit awkward. If you want to talk about the property of being fast paced, you should just say "fast pace": "There [supposedly] is a generalised fast pace affecting and permeating basically everything."

  • You may have missed a step there. The OED says paced came from the verb that was zero-converted from the noun, so it's the normal part-participle version of -ed that provided the adjective, not the other version of -ed used on nouns to derive adjectives like snaggletoothed. – tchrist Jan 30 '21 at 04:51
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Addressing the spirit of the question - specific answers about "fast-pacedness" have already been given.

In English (as with plenty of other languages) you can create words by composition- combining morphemes in different ways. Attaching prefixes or suffixes to a base word is an extremely common way to do that. Anything you can fabricate from morphemes is technically a grammatically correct an acceptable word to all but the strictest proponents of prescriptive grammar. (See comments.)

That said, just because something is technically not incorrect doesn't mean it should be used indiscriminately. At least, you should be aware of the way uncommon composite words sound to native speakers. The excellent answer from tchrist contains plenty of such words, and while they make the answer fun to read, even one of them makes it appear that Doctor Seuss is writing.

"Cornucopious" is a rather advanced adjective. "Cornucopiousness" sounds exceedingly silly, which you might like in creative writing, but not a debate. "Afraidness" might be written to convey a very child-like or whimsical tone, but in everyday speech you will always hear "fear."

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    Your assertion that “anything you can fabricate with morphemes is technically a grammatical correct word” is completely wrong. That’s the key point of the referenced paper. We have two disjoint sets of grammars, one governing Germanic suffixation and another Latinate suffixation. For example, adding Latinate ‑ation to Latinate verb accuse makes accusation, but added to Germanic verb clobber results in ❌ clobberation, an ᴜɴɢʀᴀᴍᴍᴀᴛɪᴄᴀʟ form. – tchrist Jan 28 '21 at 23:38
  • Sure, I concede that at the most technical level they are not grammatically correct. They will still be accepted as an English word by 99% of speakers (i.e. anyone without a language arts degree, and any descriptivists with one) to the same degree as the funny-sounding "cornucopiousness" would. Words like polyamorous, composed of a Greek prefix and a Latin base and suffix, indeed appear in Collins dictionary. That's the point I really want to make, and I'm happy to make a quick edit to avoid the impending prescriptive vs. descriptive debate – automaton Feb 01 '21 at 18:15
  • Darn, I guess you haven't read the paper after all, have you? There are firm suffixation restrictions that nobody will accept. It isn't a matter of language purism. These are the underlying real rules of English grammar which linguists have discovered, not made-up "rules" from school teachers who think they get to tell you how to talk. Adding suffixes after -ness forms ungrammatical compounds forbidden by these restrictions. Attempts like righteousnessdomshipicitarial simply cannot happen, and no native speaker will ever accept them. – tchrist Feb 02 '21 at 01:31