What does the expression "for crying out loud" mean and where does it come from?
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possible duplicate: http://english.stackexchange.com/questions/35156/non-offensive-substitute-for-a-swear-word – MetaEd Sep 15 '12 at 04:20
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Even though I have gone to the trouble of answering this question, I think that it is unsuitable for a variety of reasons. First of all, it is not really a question. The person asking it, has found the answer. Ironically, the person asking it, has found the answer on this site. What the question does is draw attention to the use of euphemisms and 'minced oaths'. Minced oaths is an expression that I had not heard before. – Robin Michael Sep 15 '12 at 05:38
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1I'm confused about how the moderators expect this site to work. I was searching for the origin of the phrase "for crying out loud," a search for which does not bring up the possible duplicate. In searching for the answer myself I came across minced oaths, which explains the origin of my phrase and does duplicate the previous post, but there is no way to know that until after finding the answer myself. Thinking I found something new I posted this question and answer. – By137 Sep 15 '12 at 05:41
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1cont If someone would put a list in the other post so that searches would bring it up, I wouldn't have to waste my time putting this all together only to find it was already done. – By137 Sep 15 '12 at 05:42
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1@Robin I have already read in the meta that people are encouraged to answer questions they know or find the answers to themselves http://meta.english.stackexchange.com/questions/391/asking-questions-you-know-the-answer-to – By137 Sep 15 '12 at 05:47
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Also please note ЯegDwight's answer here http://meta.english.stackexchange.com/questions/162/pointless-questions-and-answers/179#179 – By137 Sep 15 '12 at 05:49
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@By137 At first I could not understand your question. I then realised that it was both a question and an answer. You will find that this site provides a facility to ask a question, and then answer the question. Your answer is then among the answers to the question. So you are keeping to the question and answer format of the site. I did something like this with the word 'stack' used in the context of 'to stack an English Bulldog'. – Robin Michael Sep 15 '12 at 05:58
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I have had a look at ЯegDwight's answer to the following question "Here is a pointless question: What is the origin of the colloquial term "bum" meaning a homeless person?". ЯegDwight's answer is quite difficult to understand, I do not necessarily agree with it, and it is not the policy of the site. – Robin Michael Sep 15 '12 at 06:08
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I think that the format should be more like the following: What is the origin of the colloquial term "bum"? QUESTION ...a homeless person ANSWER. – Robin Michael Sep 15 '12 at 06:14
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1Right now there's no question being asked. Please ask a question to be answered, and then add a separate answer, if you have one. Answering your own question is fine, but do it in the right places. I think it was a bit better before the edit. – Hugo Sep 15 '12 at 08:00
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Minced oaths are a sub-group of euphemisms used to avoid swearing when expressing surprise or annoyance.
Used to express frustration, exasperation, or annoyance.
Synonyms
In the Wiktionary there are a lot of synonyms 'for crying out loud'. I don't think that 'for crying out loud' means 'for Christ's sake'. I think that it is an expression in its own right. While 'for Christ's sake' is offensive, 'for crying out loud' is not.
What does it actually mean?
If you hurt yourself when doing a job, then to say 'Shit!' is understandable.
If in these circumstances, someone shouts out 'sugar', 'sugar' is understood to mean 'Shit', without saying shit.
People replace the word Shit with the word Sugar, because they both begin with a similar sound.
There is probably a similar mechanism 'for ....'. People start off by saying 'for - Christ's sake' and then switch to the more acceptable ' for - crying out loud'.
You could say this is an example of a snowclone, where a familiar phrase is given a slightly different meaning. (I have seen the explanation of snowclone, and it is slightly confusing.)
Because 'for crying out loud' is a substitute for something else, it is difficult to find its meaning. Whereas, if you said 'for Christ's sake', it would be clear that this was an appeal for divine intervention.
What the hell does "Suffering Sucatash" mean???
There is an explanation of this from another forum which is now closed. The explanation is essentially the same as the explanation above. However it does introduce a new word - malapropisms.
There was a rejection of Profanity in the mid 1800's, Victorian Age, so the common people developed a wide variety of malapropisms to avoid swearing on Holy names.
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