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If there is no good or evil, then we could have done better with the climate crisis, we maybe could have stopped the world being burnt, but it doesn't matter, it's just that money was more important. Isn't there something very mediocre about that?

Do we need "good" and "evil" to relate to other people in meaingful ways? Without it, there are still rich and tall people, but doesn't that trivialise everything, even height?

Just a feeling, but would all relations be neutral, and therefore meaningless, without morality?

  • People do seem to need meaning. I am trying to come up with a good Question about that. I think the Psychology SE would be the best place, but I am sure they will still reject it. – Scott Rowe Nov 11 '23 at 15:37
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    "What if this as good as it gets?" - from the movie, As Good As It Gets – Scott Rowe Nov 11 '23 at 15:38
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  • What do you mean by "Isn't there something very mediocre about that?"- do you mean that the statemens of your first sentence are mediocre? 2. What do you mean by your sentence "Does humanity need good and evil to mean anything to itself?"? 3. Please note that this platform and philosophy alltogether is not intended to express just a feeling. It would help to clarify a bit your question and present some arguments for the positions which you introduce.
  • – Jo Wehler Nov 11 '23 at 16:10
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    Strictly so to say: neutrality (either passive or active) is the alternative to good and evil in deontic logical space, so the material issue becomes one of whether mere neutrality is mediocrity. But then it is hard to believe that mere neutrality would have possible instantiations but the obligated/supererogated and the forbidden would not (why accept neutral deontic operators but not positively and negatively charged ones? as if we accepted possibility but not necessity in our modal logic!). – Kristian Berry Nov 11 '23 at 16:42
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    i have no idea what you mean @JoWehler and i don't think you understand the fucntion or rules of the site –  Nov 11 '23 at 17:10
  • good, if not evil, is quite a general term @KristianBerry –  Nov 11 '23 at 17:12
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    @prof_ghost oddly, there seems to be only one fully negative deontic operator, FR, but if we follow Alessio Moretti's research there are infinitely many positive deontic operators; so perhaps the ratio of abstract good to abstract evil is infinity-to-one? – Kristian Berry Nov 11 '23 at 17:27
  • this question has been downovted 4 times, is at 0, has no close votes and 3 good answers. odd –  Nov 12 '23 at 02:26
  • i have no idea what you mean, and if you think that i believe in "white only" anything then, as you can have no grounds for it, i would rather you don't bother me with that –  Nov 24 '23 at 14:52
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    @prof_ghost I see a straw man. If I were a sneaky person, I would be silent in the face of what you wrote. Anyway. Did you get a tip about me? What makes you write them? – fkybrd Nov 24 '23 at 15:03
  • i have no idea what you mean. were you calling me a racist, or not @fkybrd –  Nov 24 '23 at 15:12
  • just as you can accuse me of racism without grounds: i am accusing you of racism. leave me alone. –  Nov 24 '23 at 15:22
  • @prof_ghost You're like a grunting stray cat that has found fresh meat. XP – fkybrd Nov 24 '23 at 17:15
  • Is it now, greedy? You forgot that colors can be exemplified as indicators. There is no one here who is acting hysterically but you. You think you're very powerful, but you're advocating epistemological anarchism. Good and evil are not topics for you. Engage in metaphors of your interest. – fkybrd Nov 25 '23 at 06:39
  • omk sorry for my rudeness @fkybrd –  Nov 25 '23 at 22:10
  • Evil and collusion are various neutrals. The concepts of neo-positivism were not so corrupt and limited that they could not be brought under the influence of nature. Those who call themselves neo-positivists or neo-negativits should think about it. The purity of indicators alone is not enough. Kindness is defined as widsom/knowledge as the result of a composition. It is a clear example of loss of will, corruption or chaos in evil and collusion. I don't need to talk about the laws of entropy and negentropy. Therefore, there is no moral procedure at the root of evil and collusion. – fkybrd Nov 25 '23 at 23:09