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Whether deliberate or not, given that society needs people to do unpleasant jobs, there must be a way to induce people to take such jobs. People who do such jobs do not make enough money to educate their children or even properly feed them -- do the children of people who belong to the lower class economically tend to remain in that class? (I suspect they do?)

Will automating such unpleasant jobs away (dishwashing, hotel room cleaning, etc.) in the long run benefit the lower economic classes? (Even as such automation initially displaces people with such jobs.)

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    That would be an economics question. – armand May 02 '21 at 12:32
  • i disagree. it is almost certainly a sociological question with economic aspects. – releseabe May 02 '21 at 12:51
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    What exactly is the question? Whether this is deliberate? What the way to induce doing those jobs is? Will automation solve the problem of upward mobility? The title is also odd considering that it is your proposed solution that is intended to work by limiting (undesirable) opportunities. Because of that it is hard to see how it would work by itself, without subsidizing education and re-education, which should help regardless of automation. – Conifold May 02 '21 at 21:43
  • @relesaebe economics or sociology are independent fields of study, both distinct from philosophy. Don't get me wrong the topic is interesting, but it does not belong on this site. – armand May 03 '21 at 00:11

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In the US in particular, and industrial capitalist states in general, financial policy aims to keep an unemployment level of between 4%-8%. You'll notice, for instance, that if the unemployment rate in the US gets too low, the Fed will raise interest rates, putting a financial hindrance on businesses that forces them to lay off workers. This unemployment rate is carefully managed: if unemployment gets too high, it begins to impact the economy, as employees start to fear for their jobs and start being cautious with their money, resisting buying anything except necessities; if unemployment rates drop to low, wages start to rise, which impacts corporate bottom lines.

When the properly small but significant unemployment rate is reached, it forces people in that unlucky 4%-8% group to scrabble after any work they can get, no matter how unpleasant or badly paid. That's the only reason why places like McDonalds and Walmart manage to attract employees at all.

As a rule, people in the lowest economic bracket are squeezed financially. They cannot afford private schools or college tuitions; they may suffer from housing or food insecurity. Children from poor strata begin working at a younger age, and work harder and longer hours than children from wealthier families, which impacts their education level and future economic prospects. Poor families are extremely dependent on public educational institutions and scholarships to have their children advance, but (outside of college sports) public educational institutions are poorly funded and badly equipped, and scholarships are rare and difficult to acquire (often being offered to wealthier students who have the leisure to study and access to better education and training courses, which raises their 'on paper' qualifications).

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  • Germany has a law which involves a mandatory policy of full employment, which is typically reached at 2-4% unemployment rate. That's due to there being more jobs than people looking for jobs at that point. Do you have any reliable source for your claims? – Philip Klöcking May 02 '21 at 17:56
  • You forgot to mention the main way that they keep unemployment from getting to low, they open the borders to millions of immigrants. Trump was naive. He thought a low unemployment rate was a good thing, as that's one of the reasons he had to go. One of Biden's very first actions was to throw the border wide open.
  • – David Gudeman May 02 '21 at 18:39
  • In the US at least, the 4% to 6% don't scrabble after any employment they can get. People can and do live on social services for decades.
  • – David Gudeman May 02 '21 at 18:41
  • Another way they create unemployment is by raising the minimum wage.
  • – David Gudeman May 02 '21 at 18:42