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Definitely, a round square doesn't exist.

Then, can we describe a round square?

E.g. A round square isn't green. A round square is big. A round square is round.

Can we meaningfully describe like this? If so, could they be true?

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    See "Colorless green ideas sleep furiously" for the well-known example of a sentence that is grammatically well-formed, but semantically nonsensical. – Mauro ALLEGRANZA Nov 17 '23 at 08:13
  • You should like Meinongian theories:"Concrete objects are said to exist and subsist. Abstract objects are said not to exist but to subsist... ‘The round square is round’ is a true sentence and therefore its subject term stands for an object." The round square still does not exist, only subsists, and you need a lot of logical acrobatics to avoid contradictions, but still. – Conifold Nov 17 '23 at 09:41
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    @Conifold logical acrobatics give people something to do in their spare time, I guess? – Scott Rowe Nov 17 '23 at 13:15
  • Topologically, one might speak of a square that is a circle in the way that we sometimes joke that a donut and a coffee mug are "the same" (because they can be transformed into each other minus excessive breakage of whichever original shape). Or imagine a square projected onto a sphere, or a circle with distinguished points inserted so as to split the circle into four arcs = sides. These are not round squares per se, perhaps, but they might be what our mind tries to "compute" when it tries to "compute" the phrase "round square"... – Kristian Berry Nov 17 '23 at 14:40
  • I'm with Conifold. You might enjoy the Meinongian jungle. – J D Nov 17 '23 at 15:31
  • Believe it or not, it's called a squircle: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Squircle#:~:text=A%20squircle%20is%20a%20shape%20intermediate%20between%20a%20square%20and%20a%20circle. – Idiosyncratic Soul Nov 17 '23 at 15:38

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It is true that there exists no entity which instantiates the set squares which has the characteristic round.

It is true that there exists no entity which instantiates the set squares which has the characteristic round and which has the characteristic green.

It is false that there exists an entity which instantiates the set squares which has the characteristic round.

It is false that there exists an entity which instantiates the set squares which has the characteristic round and which has the characteristic big.

It is false that there exists an entity which instantiates the set squares which has the characteristic round and which has the characteristic round.

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  • So, are "round square is green" and "round sqaure is round" false? –  Nov 17 '23 at 04:09
  • @Collins when translated into an unambiguous sentence that can mean what is probably meant by "a round square is...", yes. – g s Nov 17 '23 at 04:10
  • @g s I'm sorry, but then "round square isn't green" and "round square isn't round" are true? –  Nov 17 '23 at 04:13
  • @collins yes, when likewise translated into a more unambiguous sentence. – g s Nov 17 '23 at 04:16
  • @g s What do you mean by "when translated into an unambiguous sentence"? I'm sorry but I'm not an English speaker so it's a bit hard to understand. –  Nov 17 '23 at 04:17
  • @Collins study computer programming, it is a great intro to logic and reasoning. The 'tutor' won't let you get away with any mistakes. – Scott Rowe Nov 17 '23 at 13:17
  • What about a Squircle? – J D Nov 17 '23 at 15:29
  • @Collins By unambiguous sentence I mean a sentence which can only be interpreted one way. – g s Nov 17 '23 at 15:31
  • @JD please take three seconds to read the first two lines of that link and then delete your obvious trolling – g s Nov 17 '23 at 15:32
  • @gs There are no sentences free of ambiguity in reality. – J D Nov 17 '23 at 15:34
  • @JD I agree entirely with the exact words that you said: your mother is so fat when she sit around the house, she sit around the house. – g s Nov 17 '23 at 15:35
  • @gs I enlisted once, and my DIs taught me a song about sticks and stones. ¯_(ツ)_/¯ – J D Nov 17 '23 at 15:38
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  • THIS. Given enough time and money, you can achieve the impossible. – Scott Rowe Nov 17 '23 at 13:19